Engine & Caboose Painting project
Engine & Caboose Painting project
Painting project of the Engine & Caboose at the Depot.
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According to the Daily Journal, the city sued the museum in August 2011 to get the museum to paint the engine and caboose. After a year, the suit was settled so that the museum leases the rolling stock to the town for 25 years. The lease costs the town nothing, but allows the town to get state funding to refurbish the equipment, which remains property of the museum. The refurbishment not only includes repainting but, in the Journal's words, "make them accessible and user-friendly to the viewing public." I think that means people will be able to get on the equipment, but I'm not sure.
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It's clear from quotes that the other museum's attorney, William Van O Linda, and its president, Bill Williams, gave to the paper over the course of a year that they were defendants in the suit, not the plaintiffs. So the town sued the museum.
The issue that David and Freddie have raised here is the lack of maintenance on the caboose at the City Lake. More specifically, it's the contradiction between the concern for the rolling stock in one place and under one ownership and the lack of concern for the rolling stock in another place and under another ownership.
The issue that David and Freddie have raised here is the lack of maintenance on the caboose at the City Lake. More specifically, it's the contradiction between the concern for the rolling stock in one place and under one ownership and the lack of concern for the rolling stock in another place and under another ownership.
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Benny,sigmore wrote:Why doesn't anyone just have a little "paintin pardy" at the caboose. I'll bet yall could find enough volunteers to cook out and fix up the caboose with a little steam cleaning and some donated paint. Steal a bucket of red from the fire house!!
I have a group of volunteers that have helped me with community projects in the past. Our last project with the City of Hamlet was building the Concession Stand at the South Hamlet Park. Friends of Hamlet received a grant from the Cole Foundation for half the project cost. After the project was completed a city official expressed publicly that they were cheated. The City paid all their part of the project directly to the contractor. I handled the entire project and paid the remaining portion of the project. The Cole Foundation had no objections to how their money was spent on this project. In a meeting with the Mayor and City Manager she said that the City would never partner again on any type project like this.
I know a number of positive projects that could be done by citizens such as painting the caboose. It’s a shame of our City’s lack of desire to work with an established citizens group to help make our town a better place
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Re: Engine & Caboose Painting project
Jody is absolutely correct. The semaphore positions indicate stop, one governing one track and one governing an adjacent track. Multiple light signals (yellow over green for instance) for a particular track would have been stacked. Notice that the blades of these semaphores have square ends. They are absolute signals. A blade with a point >, or a blade with a fishtail <, were used to tell/forewarn an engineer of the aspect of an upcoming absolute signal. There were also round ended blades indicating train orders—deviations from the timetable operation would be enacted through train orders. The aspect of the semaphore: |= proceed; / = proceed with restrictions; — = stop.
Notice the bluish roundel or lense. This is not a faded green or an incorrectly colored roundel. Originally, semaphores were illuminated by kerosene lamps and the blue mixed with the yellow of the flame to make green. Even with the advent of the tungsten filament, electric light, there was still a considerable amount of yellow and the blue roundel remained, though the appearance was decidedly bluer. In the original semaphores the blue roundel—green when it mixed with the yellow light source—was white.
The last operating semaphore on CSX lines, used in Baltimore, was removed in 2006.
Notice the bluish roundel or lense. This is not a faded green or an incorrectly colored roundel. Originally, semaphores were illuminated by kerosene lamps and the blue mixed with the yellow of the flame to make green. Even with the advent of the tungsten filament, electric light, there was still a considerable amount of yellow and the blue roundel remained, though the appearance was decidedly bluer. In the original semaphores the blue roundel—green when it mixed with the yellow light source—was white.
The last operating semaphore on CSX lines, used in Baltimore, was removed in 2006.
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Re: Engine & Caboose Painting project
Joe,
I have a memory (1950's) of a double semaphore in the middle of the 4-track crossing at the SE corner of the old terminal. They were stacked with one set for the E/W tracks and a set for the N/S tracks. I guess what I'm trying to describe is a "quad", two facing N/S stacked on a set facing E/W. I would be waiting out there with my grandmother every evening and can vividly recall the stop or horizontal markers as two westbound trains were held at the crossing for a southbound to pass and it's markers would be green and at a 45 degree angle down. I've wondered whatever happened to that one. Then again, something also tells me that maybe it was just one set and that it could be rotated to signal traffic in either direction. Now I'm not sure. Getting old does weird things with memory. Then again one may have replaced the other. Could that possibly be the same semaphore in the picture? Thanks. Wayne Cosby
I have a memory (1950's) of a double semaphore in the middle of the 4-track crossing at the SE corner of the old terminal. They were stacked with one set for the E/W tracks and a set for the N/S tracks. I guess what I'm trying to describe is a "quad", two facing N/S stacked on a set facing E/W. I would be waiting out there with my grandmother every evening and can vividly recall the stop or horizontal markers as two westbound trains were held at the crossing for a southbound to pass and it's markers would be green and at a 45 degree angle down. I've wondered whatever happened to that one. Then again, something also tells me that maybe it was just one set and that it could be rotated to signal traffic in either direction. Now I'm not sure. Getting old does weird things with memory. Then again one may have replaced the other. Could that possibly be the same semaphore in the picture? Thanks. Wayne Cosby
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